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1XXXII. THE CONTROVERSY OF JOHN IV
2Parchment. Four leaves from a single Ms. Frag. 1 (Rylands Library, mss. Copt. no. 449 [48]! is a single
3leaf 28 x 19 cm.: the page-number is lost. Frag. 2 (Cairo, no. 62) measures 29.1 x 20.8, the margins being
4complete save that the upper left corner, bearing the page-number, has been torn off. F rags. 3 and 4 (Cod.
5Tisch. xxv1, 11, 3 are two consecutive leaves, paged respectively -ⲣ︦ⲇ︦ and ⲋ̄ (sic), and measuring
625 ⲭ 19 and 28 ⲭ 18 ⲥⲓ.
7The written column (in Frag. 2) measures 22.7 x 13-14 cm. Guide-lines are ruled along the top and down
8the left side of the column: the only stop used is = (black), which is freely employed. The hand is compared
9by Crum with that of Hyvernat, Album, xLu, 1, XL1, 1: in addition to the peculiarities noticed by Crum the
10irregularity of ¢ is remarkable. (See Plate XI a.)
11An Arabic version of the Coptic original to which these fragments belong exists in two mss. at Paris (B.N.,
12Fonds Arabe, nos. 215, fols. 186 ff. and 4881) :* from these the order of the Coptic fragments can be deter-
13mined. The circumstances in which the controversy took place are thus stated in the opening pages: “In
14the Name of God, the Creator, the Reasonable, the most holy Trinity! We begin with the help of God (Glory
15be to Him!) to relate the controversy of our Father, the Father Patriarch Anba John (IV), Patriarch of
16Alexandria (677-686 A.D.), with the Jew and the Melkite in the days of ‘Abd el ‘Aziz, the King in Misr
17(Egypt), the same who built the (Nilo)meter at Hulwin.”® The writer then relates that one day when the
18Patriarch was in audience with ‘Abd el ‘Aziz news was brought that a certain Jew had died without heirs.
19The governor ordered the property of the deceased to be brought into the treasury. A casket of silver and
20gold attracted special attention and was brought to ‘Abd el ‘Aziz, who on opening it was surprised to find
21only a fragment of wood. The Patriarch, however, divined that it was a fragment of the True Cross, and,
22after the wood had been placed by way of test on a fire without being burned, purchased the relic from ‘Abd
23el ‘Aziz for three thousand dinirs.
24This done, the Governor expressed a desire to know which was the true religion and arranged that the
25Patriarch should dispute before him with a Jew named Aaron, and a Melkite or Chalcedonian. After pro-
26tracted debate both were converted by the Patriarch, who was then requested by the Governor to show how
27the doctrine of Transubstantiation could be consistent with the fact that God is in Heaven. The Patriarch’s
28reply contains a noteworthy incident derived, perhaps, from some apocryphal document. Judas, he says,
29was made to go out before the institution of the Eucharist as unworthy to partake of the Body and Blood
30of Christ. Thereupon the Savior made His solemn declaration to His disciples: “And while our Lord Jesus
31Christ informed them of that, they doubted in their hearts. Thereupon He disappeared from their sight,’
32and they beheld that Bread which had been changed into Flesh, and that Wine which had been changed into
33Blood after the Consecration. And they were afraid and fell upon their faces like dead men. Thereupon, He
34appeared (again) to them, lifted them up, and drove away their fear. And He said to them: ‘ Verily | say unto
35you, whosoever believeth and eateth thereof with complete faith, he shall live for ever; and whosoever shall
36confess Me before men, | will confess him before My Father Who is in Heaven.’ ”’®
37Dom Villecourt informs me that in Paris Fonds Arabe 215, f. 199, verso 1. 2, a citation from the Questions
38of SS. Basil and Gregory occurs and that Gregory is elsewhere mentioned.
39Of the four fragments published below, the first and second belong to the debates with the Jew and the
40Melkite respectively : the third and fourth (the two last leaves but one in the tract) come from the concluding
41argument with ‘Abd el ‘Aziz.
42The Arabic version corresponds fairly closely with the Coptic,’ but sometimes omits and sometimes
43adds non-essential words and phrases. Since these points of difference are immaterial, no collation of the two
44versions seems necessary; but references to the corresponding passages in the Paris Ms. no. 215 are added
45in the margin of the translations of the Coptic fragments.
46My special thanks are due to Dom Louis Villecourt, O.S.B., who has furnished not only a general analysis
47of the whole Arabic version, but also translations of all the passages corresponding to the Coptic leaves.
481 See Crum, Cat. of Copt. MSS. in the Rylands Library, 6 ‘Abd el ‘Aziz was governor of Egypt, 685-705 A.D.
49pp. 22. where the text of this fragment is edited.
502 See Leipoldt, ap. Vollers Kat., p. 410.
513 The ⲣ is at a lower level than the ⲇ and surmounted
52by a separate bar. Presumably the original scribe forgot
53his hundreds, and these were added sporadically by a later
54hand.
554 The lower edge and lower right corner of Frag. 3 are
56missing: in Frag. 4 the left edge has been slightly cropped.
575 The former of these alone has been consulted: the
58passages in it parallel to the Coptic fragments are indicated
59in the margin of my translation.
60(See Lane Poole, Hist. of Egypt in the Middle Ages, pp. 26,
6146.)
627 The meaning seems to be that Christ was literally
63transformed into the Elements.
648 Ms. cit., fo. 210°. The Coptic (see Frag. 3, recto, 1. 1)
65evidently added “and the holy Angels.” For the conflated
66Scriptural elements see John vi, 53 ff.; Luke 1x, 26.
67ⲟ Whatever the provenance of the Paris ms. 215, it was
68clearly not translated from the Coptic Ms. whose remains
69are here published; for the latter (see Frag. 3, recto, 1. 11)
70omits two paragraphs which are present in the former.
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71* Recto
72(= Arab.
73fo. 1882, 7)
74* Verso
75(= Arab.
76fo. 188%, 11)
77NEW TEXTS FROM THE MONASTERY OF SAINT MACARIUS
78Frag. 1 (Rylands, no. 449 [48]).
79ϫⲉ ⲓⲥ ⲡⲉⲕⲛⲟⲩϯ ⲡⲓ︦ⲥ︦ⲗ︦ ⲛ[ⲏ ⲉ‐ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡ]ⲓⲟⲩⲇⲁⲓ ϫⲉ ⲥⲥϧ]ⲏⲟⲩⲧ
80ⲧⲁⲩⲉ [ⲛ]ⲕ ⲉⲃⲟⲗϧⲉⲛ ⲡⲕⲁϩⲓ ⲑⲱⲛ ‐ ϫⲉ [ⲛⲉⲛⲓⲟϯ avi] ⲉ̄ ⲡⲉ‐
81ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ ⲉⲧⲁϥⲱϣ ⲛ̄[ⲛⲉⲧⲉⲛ‐ ⲥⲏⲧ € ment!
82io} ⲛⲡⲟⲩⲁ̀ⲣⲉϩ ⲉ ⲡⲉϥⲛ[ⲟ‐ Ⲡⲉϫ]ⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ [ϫ]ⲉ
83ϭ ⲙⲟⲥ -ⲁ̀ ⲡϭ︦ⲥ︦ ⲱϣ ⲛ̄ⲡⲓⲭⲣⲏ[ⲥ‐ 5 ⲛ︦]ϯⲟⲩ]ⲛⲟⲩ ⲉ̀ⲧⲁⲩ[ⲉⲛ] ϯϣⲑⲏⲛ
84ⲧⲓⲁⲛⲟⲥ ϩⲱⲟⲩ ⲻ ⲁϥϯ ⲛⲱⲟⲩ fire ⲓ̄ⲱⲥ[ⲏ]ⲫ ⲛⲓⲁⲕⲱⲃ ⲡⲉϥ‐
85ⲛ̄ⲡⲉϥⲥⲱⲙⲁ ⲛⲉⲙ ⲡⲉϥⲥⲛⲟϥ ⲓⲱⲧ- ⲁϥⲣⲓ ⲙⲡ] € ⲡⲉⲥⲏⲧ
86ⲡⲓⲙⲁⲛⲛⲁ ⲉⲧϩⲏⲡ ⲉⲩⲟⲩⲱⲙ. ϩⲓϫⲱⲥ - ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲁ̃ ⲛⲉϥϣⲏⲣⲓ
87ⲛⲟⲩϣⲟ ⲛ̄ⲣⲟⲙⲡⲓ̄ = ϯⲛ]ⲟⲙϯ ⲛⲁϥ - ⲉⲩⲟⲩⲱϣ €
8810 Re ⲅⲁⲣ ⲛⲉⲛⲓ̄ⲟϯ ⲉⲛⲁⲡⲟⲥⲧⲟ‐ ⲓⲟ ⲥⲉⲗⲥⲱⲗϥ = ⲛ̄ⲑⲟϥ ⲇⲉ ⲛ̄‐
89ⲗⲟⲥ ⲁⲩⲧⲥⲁⲃⲟⲛ € ⲡⲁⲓ ⲙⲁⲛⲛⲁ ⲡⲉϥⲟⲩⲱϣ € ⲥⲟⲗⲥⲉⲗ = ⲁⲗⲗⲁ
90ⲉⲑⲟⲩⲁⲃ ⲫⲁⲓ ⲛⲁϥϫⲱ ⲙ̃ⲙⲟⲥ
91Ϩⲏⲡⲡⲉ ANON ⲁⲛϣⲱⲡⲓ ⲛⲁⲣⲉϩ ϫⲉ ϯⲛⲁϣⲉ ⲛⲏⲓ ⲉ̄ ⲡⲉⲥⲏⲧ €
92€ ⲡⲟⲩⲛⲟⲙⲟⲥ ϣⲁ ⲉϧⲟⲩⲛ ⲉ̄ ⲁⲙⲉⲛϯ .. lo . ⲉⲑⲃⲉ ⲓⲱⲥⲏⲫ
9315 ⲫⲟⲟⲩ Ⲟⲩⲟϩ [ⲛⲛⲉ ⲛⲓⲡⲩ‐ I5 ⲡⲁϣⲏⲣⲓ-
94ⲗⲏ ⲛⲁⲙ[ⲉⲛϯ].. ϣⲁ é- Ⲡⲁⲗⲓⲛ ⲟⲛ ⲉ̄ⲧ[ⲁϥⲟⲩⲟ]ⲣⲡ ⲛ̄ⲛⲉϥ‐
95ⲛⲉϩ ‐ ϣⲏⲣⲓ € ⲭⲏⲙⲓ ⲉ ϣⲉⲡ ⲥⲟⲩⲟ
96Ⲁ ⲛⲉⲕⲓⲟϯ ⲟⲩⲱⲙ ⲙ̃ⲡⲓⲙⲁⲛⲛⲁ ⲁ[ⲩ‐ ⲉ̃ⲧⲁϥⲛⲁⲩ ⲉⲣⲱⲟⲩ ⲛ̄ϫⲉ
97MOP =a ⲛⲉⲛⲓ̄ⲟϯ ϩⲱⲟⲩ ⲟⲩ‐ ⲓ̄ⲱⲥⲏⲫ ⲁϥⲥⲟⲩⲱⲛⲟⲩ ⲟⲩⲟϩ
9820 ⲱⲙ ⲛ̄ⲡⲓⲙⲁⲛⲡⲁ ⲁⲩⲱⲛϧ ϣⲁ ϩⲟ ⲁϥϯⲓϩⲉⲗ[ⲓ] ⲉ̄ⲣⲱⲟⲩ ⲉϥϫⲱ ⲙ̃‐
99ⲉ̃ⲛⲉϩ‐ moc = ϫⲉ ⲛⲑⲱⲧⲉⲛ ϩⲁⲛ‐
100Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲇⲁⲓ ϫⲉ ⲡⲱⲥ ⲕϫ[ⲱ] ⲛ̄‐ ϫ[ⲏ]ⲣ ⲉⲧⲁⲣⲉⲧⲉⲛⲓ ⲉ̄ ⲙⲟⲩϣⲧ
101ⲫⲁⲓ MAT = ⲙⲏ ⲛⲓⲭⲣⲏⲥⲧⲠ]ⲁ̄‐ ⲙⲡⲓⲕⲁϩⲓ =
102ⲛⲟⲥ ⲙⲱⲟⲩⲧ ⲛ̄ⲑⲱⲟⲩ ⲁⲛ ⲛⲑⲱⲟⲩ ⲇⲉ ⲁⲩⲟⲩⲱϣⲧ Ji
103Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ ϫⲉ 2 ⲙⲟϥ ⲉⲩϫⲱ ⲙ̄ⲙⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲱ̄ ⲡⲉ(ⲛ)
104ⲫⲙⲟⲩ ⲙⲏⲛ ⲛ̄ⲧⲉ ⲡⲁⲓ ⲕⲟ[ⲥⲙⲟ]ⲥ OT ⲛⲉⲕⲉⲃⲓⲁⲓ̄ⲕ ϩⲁⲛⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲁⲛ
105ⲟⲩⲱⲧⲉⲃ ⲉ̀ⲃⲟⲗ ⲡⲉ = ⲫⲏ ⲛⲑⲟϥ ⲛ[ⲉ] ⲛ̄ⲡⲁⲓ ⲣⲏϯ-
106ⲉⲑⲛⲁϩⲉⲓ ⲛⲛⲉⲛϫⲓϫ ⲛⲁⲙⲉⲛϯ
1071 . . . ⲁ
108ⲫⲁⲓ ⲛⲉ ⲡⲙⲟⲩ ⲡⲉⲛⲉϩ The Arabic has “I should like you to tell me if in my
109law it is written that one of our fathers has been transported
110to Hades.”
1112 The Arabic has “1 will go down to Hades sad because
112of Joseph, my son.”
1133 ? ⲁϥϭⲓϩⲉⲗ, Crum.
114“...*saying: ‘ Behold thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee forth from the land of Egypt.’ When He had
115called your fathers, they did not keep His law; (and) the Lord called the Christians also and gave them
116His body and His blood, the hidden manna,® that they might eat thereof a thousand years. For indeed
117our Father-Apostles taught us concerning this holy manna—Lo, it is we who have kept their law unto this
118day; and the gates of Amenti [shall not prevail ?] for ever. Your fathers did eat manna and are dead ;® our
119fathers also ate manna and live for ever.”
120The Jew said: “How sayest thou this to me ? Do not the Christians also die ?”
121The Archbishop said: “Verily, the death of this world is a passing away; but he who shall fall into the
122hands of Amenti—that is death eternal.” 4
123Ⲧⲣⲉ Jew said: “ Where is it written that our fathers went down unto Amenti ?”’
124The Archbishop said: “At the time when they brought the coat of Joseph to Jacob his father, he wept
125over it, And his sons consoled him desiring to comfort him; but he desired not to be comforted, but said:
126“I will go down unto Amenti sad® because of Joseph my son.’® Again, when he had sent his sons to Egypt
127to get corn; when Joseph saw them, he knew them and terrified them, saying: Ye are spies who are come to
128examine the land.” But they worshipped him, saying: Ⲟ our Lord, thy servants are not men of this ⲟⲓ...
129ⲓ Exodus XXXII, 4. 3 Cp. John v1, 58. 5 So the Arabic. 7 Cp. Gen. xL11, 8.
1302 Cp. Rev. 11, 17. 4 Cp. Luke x11, 4. 6 Cp. Gen. xxxvii, 33 fi.
131172
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132THE CONTROVERSY OF JOHN ⲓⲛ
133Frag. 2 (Cairo, no. 62).
134Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲭⲁⲗⲕⲏⲇⲱⲛ ϫⲉ fi- ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲁⲥⲓⲣⲓ ⲛⲛⲓⲙⲱⲟⲩ
135ⲑⲱⲧⲉⲛ ϧⲁ ⲛⲓⲑⲉⲟ̄ⲇⲟ‐ ⲉⲡⲏⲣⲡ ⲁⲥ(ⲥ)ⲙⲟⲩ ⲉ̄ ⲉ̄ ⲉ‐
136ⲥⲓⲁⲛⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲧⲉⲧⲉⲛ‐ ⲛⲱⲓⲕ ⲁⲥⲙⲟϣⲓ ϩⲓ‐
137ϫⲱ ⲙ̄ⲙⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲁ ⲫ︦ϯ ϭⲓ ⲙⲕⲁϩ ϫⲉⲛ ⲫⲓ̄ⲟⲙ ⲁⲥϩⲓⲟⲩⲓ ⲛ̄ⲡⲓ‐
1385 ⲁ̀ⲛⲟⲛ ⲧⲉⲛϫⲱ ⲙⲙⲟⲥ 5 ϫⲉⲙⲱⲛ ⲉⲃⲟⲗ ⲁⲡⲗⲱⲥ ⲛⲓϣ-
139ϫⲉ ⲫϯ ⲟⲩⲁⲧϣⲉⲛ ϧⲓⲥⲓ ⲡⲉ = ⲫⲏⲣⲓ ⲉ̄ⲧ ⲁϥⲁⲓ̄ⲧⲟⲩ ⲧⲏⲣⲟⲩ
140ⲟⲩⲁⲧⲙⲟⲩ ⲡⲉ = ⲛⲁϯⲙⲉⲑⲡⲟⲩϯ ⲛⲉ -
141ⲟⲩ‐ ⲁ̃ⲧⲟⲩⲱⲙ ⲡⲉ = Ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲛⲓⲙ̃ⲕⲁϩ ⲛⲁϯⲙⲉⲑⲣⲱⲙⲓ
142ⲟⲩ‐ ⲁⲧⲥⲱ ⲡⲉ- ϩⲱⲥ ⲡⲉ ‐
143ⲓⲟ ⲟⲩ ‐ ⲁⲩⲉⲛⲕⲟⲧ ⲛⲉ • ⲓⲟ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ
144OF = ⲁ̀ⲧϩⲓⲛⲓ̄ⲙ ⲡⲉ = ⲛⲁϥ ϫⲉ ⲱ̄ ⲡⲓ̄ⲉϩⲣⲉⲇⲓ̄ⲕⲟⲥ ⲉⲧ‐
145Ⲁⲗⲗⲁ agi ⲉ̄ ⲡⲉⲥⲏⲧ ⲁϥⲉⲣⲫⲟⲣⲓⲛ ϭⲁϧⲉⲙ
146ⲛⲟⲩⲥⲁⲣⲝ ⲛⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲥⲁⲃⲟⲗ ⲛ̄ϯ- Ⲟⲩⲕ ⲟⲩⲛ ⲕⲁⲧⲁ ⲡⲉⲕⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲉⲑ‐
147ⲙⲉⲑⲛⲟⲩϯ ⲙⲉϩ ⲙ̃ⲙⲉⲑⲣⲉϥϫⲉⲟⲩⲁ̀ = ⲉⲕ‐
14815 Ⲟⲩⲥⲁⲣⲝ ⲛ̄ⲣⲉϥϣⲉⲡ ϧⲓⲥⲓ = ⲟⲩⲟϩ I5 ϫⲱ ⲙ̄ⲙⲟⲥ ⲉ ⲡⲁϭ︦ⲥ︦ ⲓ︦ⲏ︦ⲥ︦ ⲡⲭ︦ⲥ︦ ϫⲉ
149ⲛ̄ⲣⲉϥⲟⲓ ⲙ̄ⲕⲁϩ = ⲟⲩⲥⲁⲣⲝ ϥϣⲟⲡ ϧⲉⲛ ⲫⲩⲥⲓⲥ ⲥⲛⲟⲩϯ
150ⲉ̃ⲥⲟⲩⲱⲙ = ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲉⲥⲥⲱ Ori ⲙⲏⲛ ⲉⲥⲧⲁⲗϭⲟ ⲟⲩⲓ̄ ⲉⲥ‐
151€CENROT = ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲉⲥϩⲓ‐ ϭⲓ ⲙ̃ⲕⲁϩ
152ⲛⲓⲙ ⲁⲩⲉⲣⲥⲧⲁⲩⲣⲱⲛⲓⲛ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲭⲁⲗⲕⲏⲇⲱⲛ ϫⲉ ⲫⲁⲓ
153ⲍⲟ ⲛ̄ϯⲥⲁⲣⲝ ‐ ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲁⲩ‐ ϩⲟ ⲁⲛⲟⲕ ⲡⲉ ⲡⲁⲛⲁϩϯ
154.
155ⲧ ⲟⲥ.4 ⲉ ϯⲥⲁⲣⲝ ⲟⲩⲟϩ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ
156ⲁⲩϯ ⲛ̄ⲟⲩϣⲉⲛⲗⲟⲅⲭⲏ ⲛⲁⲥ ϫⲉ ⲙⲡⲉⲥϣⲱⲡⲓ ⲛ̄ⲡⲁⲓ ⲣⲏϯ
157ⲛⲁⲓ̄ ⲧⲏⲣⲟⲩ ϯⲥⲁⲣⲝ ⲁⲧϥⲁⲓ̄ⲓ ⲉ
158ⲓ̄ ⲧⲏⲣⲟⲩ ϯⲥ ⲣⲝ ⲁⲧϥⲁⲓ ⲁⲗⲗⲁ ⲥⲱⲧⲉⲙ ⲉ̀ⲣⲟⲓ ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩ‐
159ⲁⲣⲱⲟⲩ- 3
160bap ϯⲉϩⲑⲏϥ ⲁ̀ⲛⲟⲕ ⲡⲉ ⲉⲑⲛⲁ ⲧⲁ‐
1612 ϯⲙⲉⲑⲛⲟⲩϯ ϩⲱⲥ ⲁⲥⲧⲁⲗϭⲟ . .
162︦ ϯ ⲥ 25 ⲙⲟⲕ ⲉ̄ ϯⲙⲉⲑⲙⲏⲓ̄ -
163ⲛ̄ⲛⲏ ⲉⲧϣⲱⲛⲓ̄- ⲧ
1641 sic: ? for ⲁⲥϥⲁⲓ.
1652 sic: from ⲧⲱⲥ (to fasten: see Zoéga, Cat. p. 290, note
16621) + ϥⲧ, nail.
167Ⲧⲉ Chalcedonian said: “Ye, the Theodosians;! for ye say that God suffered. We say that God is not
168subject to suffering, that He dieth not, that He eateth not, and drinketh not, and sleepeth not, and slumbereth
169not. But He came down and was clothed in human flesh, separate from His Divinity—flesh subject to
170suffering and subject to pain, flesh which ate, and drank, and slept, and slumbered. The flesh was crucified,
171and the flesh was nailed and wounded with the spear. All these things the flesh endured. The Godhead
172also healed those who were sick, “turned the waters into wine, blessed the five loaves, walked upon the sea,
173cast out devils. In a word, all the wonders which He performed pertained to the Godhead, and the sufferings
174pertained to the Manhood alone.”
175The Archbishop said: “O abominable heretic! According to thy words, then, which are full of blasphemy,
176thou affirmest of our Lord Jesus the Christ that He was in two Natures, one indeed which healed and one
177which suffered ?”
178The Chalcedonian said: “Such is my faith.”
179The Archbishop said: Ⲙ was not so. But harken unto me attentively and I will declare unto you the
180ⲧ...
1811 i.e. the Monophysites who were so called after the Evetts, p. 204.
182Patriarch Theodosius I (535-565): see Hist. Patr., ed.
183173
184* Recto
185(=Arab.
186fo. 190%, 5)
187* Verso
188* (=Arab.
189fo. 190%, 16)
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190(ⲣ. 103)
191(== Arab.
192fo. 201°, 12)
193ⲣ. 104
194NEW TEXTS FROM THE MONASTERY OF SAINT MACARIUS
195Frag. 3 (Cod. Tisch. xxv1, 11). Fal
196ⲅⲉⲗⲟⲥ ⲉⲑ[ⲟⲩⲁⲃ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥ[ⲩⲛⲃⲟ]ⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ c-
197Ic ⲡⲏ ⲉⲧ ⲁⲓⲥ[ⲱⲧⲉ|ⲙ ⲉⲣⲱⲟⲩ ⲣⲏⲟⲩⲧ ben] ⲡⲁⲛⲟⲙⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲛ̄-
198ⲛ̄ⲧⲟⲧⲟⲩ ⲛⲛⲁⲓⲟϯ ⲁⲓ̄ⲧⲁⲙⲟⲕ ⲧⲟⲩⲧⲁϩⲟϥ ⲣⲱ ⲁⲗⲗⲁ ⲁ ⲫϯ
199ⲉⲣⲱⲟⲩ ‐ ⲟⲗϥ ⲉ ⲡϣⲱⲓ̄ ⲉ ⲧⲫⲉ
2005 Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟⲗⲟⲥ ⲛⲁϥ ϫⲉ 5 Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉ̀ⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ
201ⲥⲥϧⲏⲟⲩⲧ ϧⲉⲛ ⲡⲁⲛⲟⲙⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲛⲓ̄ⲙ ⲡⲉ ET ⲁⲩⲁϣϥ
202ϫⲉ ⲉ ⲫϯ- ⲉⲗ ⲥϩⲓⲙⲓ- ⲉ̄ ⲡⲓⲣ - ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟ‐
203ⲟⲩϩ ⲛⲙⲉϥⲙⲁⲥ ϣⲏⲣⲓ ⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲟⲩⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲡⲉ ⲉⲧⲁϥ‐
204ⲁⲗⲗⲁ ⲟⲩⲛⲓϥⲓ̄ Hem ⲟⲩⲥⲁ‐ ⲉⲣ ⲧⲉϥϣⲉⲃⲓⲱ ⲟⲩⲟϩ
205ⲓⲟ ϫⲓ̄ ⲛ̄ⲧⲱⲟⲩ ⲁⲩϣⲱⲡⲓ ⲙ̃ⲫⲣⲏ‐ ⲓⲟ ⲛⲁⲣⲉ ⲛⲓⲟⲩⲇⲁⲓ ⲙⲉⲩⲓ̄ ⲡⲉ ϫⲉ
206ϯ ⲛⲛⲓⲣⲱⲙⲓ - ⲓ︦ⲏ︦ⲥ︦ ⲡⲉ ⲉⲧ ⲁⲩⲁϣϥ
207Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ
208ϫⲉ ⲓ̄ⲥϫⲉ ⲟⲩⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲡⲉ = Te ϫⲉ ⲙⲏ ⲫ︦ϯ︦ ⲟⲩⲣⲉϥ ϭⲓⲛϫⲟⲛⲥ
209ⲡⲱⲥ ⲁϥⲉⲣ ⲡⲓⲙⲱⲟⲩ ⲛ̄‐ ⲡⲉ ϣⲁⲧⲉϥϯ [ⲛ]ⲟⲩⲣⲱ[ⲙⲓ
210I5 ⲏⲣⲡ ϫ ⲁϥϩⲓⲟⲩ[ⲓ̄ ⲛⲛⲓⲇ]ⲉ‐ ⲓ ⲛⲁⲑⲛⲟⲃⲓ | ⲉⲑⲣⲟⲩϧⲱⲧⲉⲃ ⲙ̄‐
211ⲙⲱⲛ ⲉⲃⲟⲗ [ⲁϥⲧⲁⲗϭⲟ ⲙⲟϥ ⲛ̄ϣ]ⲉⲃⲓⲱ̄ ime
212ⲛⲛⲏ ⲉⲧϣⲱⲛⲓ ⲻ ⲁϥⲧⲟⲩ‐ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃ]ⲟⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ
213ⲛ]ⲟⲥ ⲛⲏ ⲉⲧ[ⲙⲱⲟⲩⲧ . ..ⲉ ⲛ̄ⲣⲉϥ[ⲉ]ⲣ
214Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩ[ⲛⲃⲟⲩⲗⲟⲥ ⲛⲁϥ ⲡⲉⲧϩⲱⲟⲩ ⲉⲧ] ⲁ̀ ⲡϭ̅ⲥ̅ THY
215ϩⲟ ϫⲉ ⲫⲛⲓϥⲓ [ⲙ̄ⲫϯ ϩⲟ ⲉⲑⲣⲉϥⲙⲟⲩ ⲕ]ⲁⲧⲁ ⲡⲉϥⲙ̃̄ϣⲁ
216Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣ[ⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟ‐ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭϯⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ
217ⲡⲟⲥ ⲛⲁϥ [ϫⲉ ⲓⲥϫⲉ ⲟⲩⲟⲛ .
218x ql HEN ⲟⲩⲧⲁϫⲣⲟ = ⲛ̄ⲡⲉⲣ‐
219ⲟ]ⲩⲛⲓϥⲓ ⲡⲉ- ⲓⲉ ........ ϣⲏⲧ ]
220Sool. ⲉ ⲉ Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ϯ‐
2212.. ‘ ϯ 1 To the left of = and at a very slightly lower level is the
2221 The Arabic shows that after I. 11 two paragraphs have added numeral Pe
223been dropped out owing to homoeoteleuton.
224ⲥ... ⲃⲟⲩ ⲡϩⲉ Lo, those things which I have heard from my fathers I declare unto you.”
225The Governor? said unto him: “It is written in my Law that God taketh not a woman, nor doth He beget ;?
226but a Spirit and a Word* became like man.” (The Patriarch said to him: “If He was a Word, how did He
227eat and drink and do all things like us, sin excepted Ⲧⲃⲉ Governor answered him: “Well then, He was
228a ⲧ The Archbishop said unto him: “If He was a man, then how did He make the water wine and
229cast out devils, and heal the sick, and raise the dead ?”” The Governor said to him: “The Spirit of God (did
230these things).” The Archbishop said unto him: “ If Hewas a spirit [, then who was he whom the Jews seized 7*’]
231*The Governor said: “It is written in my Law that they did not seize Him, but God took Him up into
232Heaven.”® The Archbishop said: “And who was he whom they hanged upon the Cross Ⲧⲏⲉ Governor
233said: “It was a man who was exchanged for Him; and the Jews supposed that it was Jesus whom they
234crucified.”” The Archbishop said: “Surely God is not an unjust dealer that He gave an innocent man to be
235put to death in place of Jesus ?’’ The Governor said: “[No, but it was an] evil-doer whom the Lord delivered
236to die according to his deserts.” The Archbishop said earnestly: “Do not [be angry, O Governor, if I ask
237you a question.””] The Governor said: “I
2381 The end of the saying of Christ to His Apostles as text with the word ⲣⲱⲙⲓ) were omitted in the Coptic by
239quoted by the Archbishop. See Introductory Note. homoeoteleuton : they are here reproduced from the Arabic.
2402 For the meaning of ϭⲙ ⲃⲟⲩⲗⲟⲥ see Crum in P.S.B.A. 6 See Koran, Sura 1v, 156 (cp. 111, 48): “And for their
241XXIX, 202; Leipoldt ap. Vollers, Kat. p. 410 (note). saying, ‘Verily we have slain the Messiah, Jesus the Son
2423 See Koran, Sura cxi1: “He begetteth not, neither is of Mary;’ yet they slew Him not and they crucified Him
243He begotten.” not, but one was made to appear to them like (Jesus).” This
2444 id. Sura 1v, 169: “Jesus, Son of Mary, is only an belief was held by certain Christian heretical sects. See
245Apostle of God and His Word, which He conveyed into Rodwell, The Koran, p. 551, note 2,
246Mary, and a Spirit.” 7 See preceding note.
2475 Question and answer (which ended like L 11 of the
248174
page 235
249THE CONTROVERSY OF JOHN ⲓⲛ
250Frag. 4 (Cod. Tisch. xxv1, 13). (pr
251ⲡⲁϫⲱⲛⲧ ⲁⲛ ⲡⲏⲓ ⲛ̄ⲡⲁⲓ ⲓⲟⲩⲇⲁⲓ ⲙⲱⲅⲓ̄ⲥ ⲛ̄
252ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ ⲧⲉⲥⲉⲣ ⲟⲩⲉⲣⲧⲱ SIH
253ϫⲉ IC ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲛⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲛ̄ⲣⲉϥ‐ ⲕⲉ ⲅⲁⲣ ⲁⲕϫⲟⲥ MHI - ϫⲉ ⲛⲓ‐
254ⲟⲓⲟⲩⲓ̄ ⲁⲕϧⲟⲑⲃⲟⲩ ϧⲉⲛ ⲧⲁⲓ ϣⲉ ⲛ̄ⲧⲉ ⲛⲓⲥⲟⲛⲓ ⲉⲣϣⲁⲩ
2555 ⲡⲟⲗⲓⲥ ⲓⲥϫⲉⲛ ⲧⲁⲕⲉ̀ⲣ ⲟⲩⲣⲟ- 5 € ⲛⲉϩⲗⲓ ⲁⲛ ϫⲉ -ⲉⲃⲏⲗ é
256Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲛⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲓ̄ⲥ ⲟⲩ‐ ⲣⲱⲕϩ) ⲙ̄ⲙⲱⲟⲩ ⲉⲑⲃⲉ ⲡⲟⲩⲥ‐
257ⲙⲏϣ ⲁⲓ̄ϧⲱⲧⲉⲃ ⲙ̃̄ⲙⲱ‐ ⲑⲟⲓ̄ ⲃⲱⲛ
258ⲟⲩ‐ ⲓ̄ G ⲛ̅
259I€ ⲉⲑⲃⲉ ⲟⲩ & ⲡⲟⲩⲣⲟ fine
260Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ ⲑⲁⲓ̄ ⲣⲱⲕϩ ⲛ̄ⲑⲟⲥ -ⲓⲥϫⲉ ⲟⲩ‐
26110 ϫⲉ ⲁⲕⲟⲓ ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲛⲥⲟⲩⲉⲛϥ 10 ⲥⲟⲛⲓ ⲡⲉ ⲉⲧ ⲁⲩⲁϣϥ ⲉ̀ⲣⲟⲥ
262ϧⲁ ⲛⲓϣⲉ ⲛ̄ⲧⲉ ⲛⲓⲥⲟⲛⲓ ⲉⲧ ⲁⲩ‐ Ⲧⲟⲧⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟⲗⲟⲥ ⲁϥ‐
263ⲁ̀ϣⲟⲩ ⲉⲣⲱⲟⲩ = ⲱⲛϣ ⲉ̄ⲃⲟⲗ ⲛⲟⲩⲛⲓϣϯ ⲛ̄‐
264Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲥⲩⲛⲃⲟⲗⲟⲥ ϫⲉ ⲛⲓⲙ ⲛⲁⲩ ⲉ̃ϥⲉⲙⲓ ⲁⲛ ϫⲉ
265ⲛ̄ⲣⲱⲙⲓ ⲉ̄ⲧⲉ ⲟⲩⲟⲛ ⲛⲟⲩⲥ ⲟⲩ ⲡⲉ ⲉ̄ⲧ ⲉϥⲛⲁⲉ̀ⲣⲟⲩⲱ̀
26615 ⲙ̄ⲙⲟϥ ⲉⲑⲛⲁϣϣⲱⲡ ⲛ̄‐ 5 ⲙⲙⲟϥ ⲛ̄ⲡⲓⲁⲣⲭⲏⲉ̃ⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟ‐
267ⲛⲓϣⲉ ⲉⲧⲉⲙⲙⲁⲩ- ⲛⲁⲓ ⲉⲑ‐ ⲡⲟⲥ
268ⲙⲏϩ ⲛ̄ⲙⲱⲟⲩ ⲛ̄ⲓ̄ⲁⲃⲓ ⲛ̄ⲧⲉ ⲛⲟⲩ‐ Ⲉⲧ ⲁ ⲡⲉϥϩⲏⲧ ⲇⲉ ⲓ̄ ⲉ̀ⲣⲟϥ ⲡⲉ‐
269ⲥⲱⲙⲁ ⲙ̃ⲙⲟⲛ ⲛ̄ⲡⲁⲣⲉ ⲛⲓ‐ ϫⲁϥ ϫⲉ ⲁⲗⲏⲑⲱⲥ ⲁⲓϣⲱ‐
270ϣⲉ ⲉⲧⲉⲙⲙⲁⲩ ⲉⲣϣⲁⲩ ⲉ ⲡⲓ ⲛ̄ⲫⲣⲏⲧ ⲛⲟⲩⲉⲃⲟ ⲛⲁϩ‐
27120 ⲛⲉϩⲗⲓ ϫⲉ ⲉⲃⲏⲗ ⲛ̄ⲥⲉⲣⲕⲱϩ 20 PAR = ⲕⲉ ⲅⲁⲣ ⲁⲓⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲉⲙ
272ⲙⲙⲱⲟⲩ ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩⲭⲣⲱⲙ ⲟⲩⲙⲏϣ ⲛⲥⲟⲫⲟⲥ = ⲡⲉⲙ
273Ⲡⲉϫⲉ ⲡⲓⲁⲣ- ⲭⲏⲉⲡⲓⲥⲕⲟⲡⲟⲥ ⲟⲩⲙⲏϣ ⲉ̃ⲛⲟⲥⲑⲣⲟⲗⲟⲅⲟⲥ
274ϫⲉ ⲓ̄ⲥϫⲉ ⲟⲩⲥⲟⲛⲓ ⲡⲉ- ⲉ̄ⲧ ⲁ ⲛⲁⲓ̄ ⲉⲧϫⲟⲩϣⲧ ⲉ̄ ⲛⲓⲥⲓⲟⲩ
275ⲛⲓⲟⲩⲇⲁⲓ̃ ⲣⲟⲑⲃⲉϥ - fe ⲉⲑⲃⲉ Hape ⲃⲟⲛ ⲙ̄ⲙⲱⲟⲩ ⲱⲣϥ ⲙⲙⲟⲓ
27625 ⲟⲩ ⲁⲕϣⲁⲧ ⲛⲡⲁⲓ ⲅ̄ ⲛ̄ϣⲟ ⲉ̄ⲛⲟ‐ ϯ )
277ⲙ 1;
278ⲗⲟⲩⲕⲟϫⲓ = ϧⲁ ⲧⲁⲓ̄ ⲕⲟⲩϫⲓ ⲛ̄ € ⲛⲑϩⲗⲓ, MS.
279ϫⲉⲡⲓ ⲛ̄ϣⲉ ⲉ̄ⲧ ⲁⲕϫⲉⲙⲥ hen)
2801 So divided.
281*will not be angry.” The Archbishop said: “Lo, how many thieves hast thou put to death in this city since thou
282hast been ruler ?”’ The Governor said: “Lo, | have put to death a multitude of them.” The Archbishop said:
283“How much hast thou received by the sale of the crosses whereon the thieves were hanged ?”’ The Governor
284said: “What man of sense would buy those timbers which are full of putrid moisture of their bodies ?
285Those timbers are no use save to be burned in the fire.” The Archbishop said: “If it was a thief whom the
286Jews killed, then why dost thou demand these three thousand gold pieces for this little piece (?) of wood,
287which thou hast found in *the house of this Jew, scarce a palm long ?! For thou didst tell me that the
288crosses of the thieves were good for nothing but to be burned because of their evil odor. Then why, O King,
289was not this (cross) burnt, if it was a thief who was hanged thereon ©”
290Then the Governor was silent for a long time, not knowing what to reply. But when he recovered himself,
291he said: “Verily | am like a dumb man before thee. For lo, I have spoken with many wise men and many
292astrologers who look at the stars. [Not] one of them used to bewilder (©) ⲡⲉ...
2931 For the allusion see the Introductory Note. truth there is not in all the world another faith but the
2942 A few lines only of the conclusion are missing, the Christian faith. It is the true one.” And the King ordered
295Arabic continuing (down to fo. 202", 1. 11) with the words the Patriarch to be honored. ..and sent him away in
296“‘and I have never seen among them one like thee, In peace.”
297Addendum. W. E. Crum points out to me that fragments of a somewhat similar controversial work in Sahidic are extant
298and have been published by von Lemm (Kopiische Miscellen, no. cxri). To these (Crum notes) should be added a British
299Museum fragment (no. 250), paged Aa, AR, and therefore immediately preceding the Paris fragment 129! 132 paged Aw,
300Ax. In this work also an archbishop named John disputes with a ⲭⲁⲗⲕⲏⲇⲱⲛ, but in defiance of chronology he appears
301as John Chrysostom! The phraseology of some of these fragments suggests that the Sahidic work belonged to the same
302cycle as the Bohairic fragments here published,
303175
304* (p. 105)
305(= Arab.
306fo. 201°, 17)
307* (= Arab.
308fo. 202" {8)
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XXXIII. The Controversy of John IV — lines 17809–18220, pdf pp. 231-236 (Evelyn-White, The Monasteries of the Wâdi ’n Natrûn, Part I: New Coptic Texts from the Monastery of Saint Macarius (1926) — OCR). corpus/incoming/w-boh-evelyn-white-wadi-natrun-i-1926/monasteriesofwdi01evel.pdf (staged 2026-09-23 by worker W-BOH; provenance, terms as fetched and SHA-256 in corpus/incoming/w-boh-evelyn-white-wadi-natrun-i-1926/README.md); OCR by tools/batch_ocr.py (A5d, tools/run_a5d.sh), model coptic+eng; page files: L0/ocr/Incoming/monasteriesofwdi01evel/pages. Layers as published by the Kemetic project (Yousef Hanna), 2026: Coptic · Cairene · Kemetic, /doc/hagiography/new-coptic-texts-from-the-monastery-of-saint-macarius-evelyn-white-1926/evelyn-white-the-monasteries-of-the-wadi-n-natrun-part-i-new-coptic-texts-from-t-69082f/L17809-18220/.

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L0 witness
The text as its witness or edition has it, original spelling; its dialect is a description and is never standardized.
L0.5 transliteration
For Egyptian texts: the transliteration with the editors' marks turned into the symbols ° * < > _ ^ (ruled 2026-09-10). For papyri: the edition's Leiden marks as the same symbols, and the editors' readings beside the scribe's as ‹scribe→editors› (ruled PAP-3).
L1 Cairene
Standardized Greco-Bohairic spelling and grammar, generated by code from the layer above under the rulings of the project.
L2 Kemetic
The Kemetic alphabet, generated by code from L1.
English
Quoted translations where they exist, credited; otherwise model drafts, marked as drafts.