Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072

Monastic · Apophthegmata Patrum · sahidic · L0 witness · L1 Cairene · L2 Kemetic · English

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Source: Coptic SCRIPTORIUM corpus "AP", document ap.072.n245.discipleship

Attribution: Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 from Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (https://copticscriptorium.org), corpus AP, document ap.072.n245.discipleship, version 4.5.0 (2023-09-01), annotations by Lydia Bremer-McCollum, Caroline T. Schroeder; source edition None. Licensed CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Layers L1/L2 are modified: re-spelled (Cairene) / transliterated (Kemetic) by the Kemetic project, Yousef Hanna 2026.

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English: quoted translations are shown as they are, with their credit in the provenance; lines marked draft are language-model drafts made for this project (to be corrected), and alignment unchecked marks a quoted verse whose placement was not cross-checked. Check the Coptic before relying on any English line.

refL0 witnessL1 CaireneL2 KemeticEnglish
1ⲁⲟⲩⲥⲟⲛ ϫⲟⲟⲥ ⲛⲟⲩⲛⲟϭ ⲛ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟⲁ̀ⲟⲩⲥⲟⲛ ϫⲟⲥ ⲛ̀ⲟⲩⲛⲓϣϯ ⲛ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟàouson gos ǹouniṡti ǹxelloA brother said to a noteable Elder:
2ϫⲉⲉ̇ϩⲛⲁⲓ ⲁ̇ⲡⲁ ⲉ̇ϭⲛ̇ⲟⲩϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ ⲕⲁⲧⲁⲡⲁϩⲏⲧ · ⲁⲩⲱ̇ ⲧⲁⲙⲟⲩ ⲛⲙ̇ⲙⲁϥ · ⲻϫⲉ ⲉϩⲛⲁⲓ ⲁⲡⲁ ⲉ̀ϫⲉⲙⲟⲩϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ ⲕⲁⲧⲁ ⲡⲁϩⲏⲧ: ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲧⲁⲙⲟⲩ ⲛⲉⲙⲁϥ: ⲻje ehnai apa èjemouxello kata pahyt: ouoh tamou nemaf: ⲻ'Apa, I desire to find an Elder in accordance with my heart and I will die with him.'
3ⲡⲉϫⲉⲡ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ ⲛⲁϥ ϫⲉⲕⲁⲗⲱⲥ ⲉ̇ⲕϣⲓⲛⲉ · ⲻⲡⲉϫⲉⲡ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ ⲛⲁϥ ϫⲉ ⲕⲁⲗⲱⲥ ⲁⲣⲉⲕϣⲓⲛⲓ: ⲻpejep̀xello naf je kalōs arekṡini: ⲻThe Elder said to him, 'Rightly you ask!'
4ⲛ̇ⲧⲟϥ ⲇⲉ ⲁ̇ϥⲧⲱⲕ ⲉ·ϩⲟⲩⲛ ϫⲉⲧⲁⲓ̇ ⲧⲉ ⲑⲉ ·ⲛ̀ⲑⲟϥ ⲇⲉ ⲁϥⲧⲱⲕ ⲉ: ϩⲟⲩⲛ ϫⲉ ⲑⲁⲓ ⲧⲉ ⲫ̀ⲣⲏϯ:ǹθof ḋe aftōk e: houn je θai te f̀ryti:He was confident that it was this way.
5ⲙ̇ⲡⲉϥⲛⲟⲓ ⲇⲉ ⲙ̇ⲡ̇ⲙⲉⲉ̇ⲩⲉ̇ ⲙ̇ⲡ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ · ⲻⲙ̀ⲡⲉϥⲉⲣⲛⲟⲓⲛ ⲇⲉ ⲛ̀ⲫ̀ⲙⲉⲩⲓ ⲛ̀ⲡ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ: ⲻm̀pefernoin ḋe ǹf̀mevi ǹp̀xello: ⲻBut really, he did not understand the teaching of the Elder.
6ⲛ̇ⲧⲉⲣⲉⲡ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ ⲇⲉ ⲛⲁⲩ ⲉ̇ⲣⲟϥ · ϫⲉⲧⲁⲓ̇ ⲧⲉ ⲑⲉ ⲉ̇ⲧⲉϥⲙⲉⲉⲩⲉ ⲉ̇ⲣⲟϥ ⲙⲁⲩⲁ̇ⲁϥ ϩⲱⲥ ⲁ̇ϥⲉⲓ̇ⲣⲉ ⲙ̇ⲡⲉϥϩⲱⲃ ⲕⲁⲗⲱⲥ · ⲻ ⲡ̇ⲉϫⲁϥ ⲛⲁϥⲉ̀ⲧⲁⲡ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ ⲇⲉ ⲛⲁⲩ ⲉ̀ⲣⲟϥ: ϫⲉ ⲑⲁⲓ ⲧⲉ ⲫ̀ⲣⲏϯ ⲉ̀ⲧⲉϥⲙⲉⲩⲓ ⲉ̀ⲣⲟϥ ⲙ̀ⲙⲁⲩⲁⲧϥ ϩⲱⲥ ⲁϥⲓⲣⲓ ⲛ̀ⲡⲉϥϩⲱⲃ ⲕⲁⲗⲱⲥ: ⲻ ⲡⲉϫⲁϥ ⲛⲁϥètap̀xello ḋe nav èrof: je θai te f̀ryti ètefmevi èrof m̀mavatf hōs afiri ǹpefhōb kalōs: ⲻ pegaf nafWhen the Elder saw in him that this was the manner of his inner thought, as if he understood this matter correctly, he (the elder) said to him:
7ϫⲉⲉⲕϣⲁⲛϭⲛ̇ⲟⲩϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ ⲕⲁⲧⲁⲡⲉⲕⲟⲩⲱ̇ϣ ⲉⲕⲟⲩⲱ̇ϣ ⲉ̇ϭⲱ ⲛⲙ̇ⲙⲁϥ ⲛ̇ⲧⲟϥϫⲉ ⲁⲕϣⲁⲛϫⲉⲙⲟⲩϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ ⲕⲁⲧⲁ ⲡⲉⲕⲟⲩⲱϣ ⲁⲣⲉⲕⲟⲩⲱϣ ⲉ̀ϭⲱ ⲛⲉⲙⲁϥ ⲛ̀ⲑⲟϥje akṡanjemouxello kata pekouōṡ arekouōṡ èċō nemaf ǹθof'If you find an Elder according to your wish, will you desire to stay with him?'
8ⲇⲉ ⲡⲉϫⲁϥ ϫⲉⲥⲉ ⲧⲱⲛⲟⲩ · ⲻⲇⲉ ⲡⲉϫⲁϥ ϫⲉ ⲥⲉ ⲧⲱⲛⲟⲩ: ⲻḋe pegaf je se tōnou: ⲻAnd he replied, 'Yes! Absolutely!'
9ⲡ̇ⲉϫⲉⲡ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ · ϫⲉⲕⲁⲁ̇ⲥ ⲁ̇ⲛ ⲛ̇ⲧⲟⲕ ⲉ̇ⲕⲉⲟⲩⲁ̇ϩⲕ̇ ⲛ̇ⲥⲁⲡⲟⲩⲱ̇ϣ ⲙ̇ⲡ̇ϩⲗ̇ⲗⲟ · ⲁ̇ⲗⲗⲁⲡⲉϫⲉⲡ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ: ϩⲓⲛⲁ ⲁⲛ ⲛ̀ⲑⲟⲕ ⲉⲕⲉⲟⲩⲁϩⲕ ⲛ̀ⲥⲁ ⲡ̀ⲟⲩⲱϣ ⲛ̀ⲡ̀ϧⲉⲗⲗⲟ: ⲁⲗⲗⲁpejep̀xello: hina an ǹθok ekeouahk ǹsa p̀ouōṡ ǹp̀xello: allaThe Elder responded, 'You yourself are not following the desire of the Elder. Rather...'

Provenance

L0 witness

title
Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072
dialect
sahidic
source
Coptic SCRIPTORIUM corpus "AP", document ap.072.n245.discipleship
licence
CC-BY 4.0
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attribution
Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 from Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (https://copticscriptorium.org), corpus AP, document ap.072.n245.discipleship, version 4.5.0 (2023-09-01), annotations by Lydia Bremer-McCollum, Caroline T. Schroeder; source edition None. Licensed CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Layers L1/L2 are modified: re-spelled (Cairene) / transliterated (Kemetic) by the Kemetic project, Yousef Hanna 2026.
annotation
segmentation checked · tagging checked · parsing automatic (SCRIPTORIUM meta.json; document version 4.5.0, 2023-09-01)
file
Monastic/Apophthegmata Patrum/ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium.L0.txt

L1 Cairene

title
Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 — Cairene
dialect
bohairic
source
generated from ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium.L0.txt (Coptic SCRIPTORIUM corpus "AP", document ap.072.n245.discipleship)
licence
CC BY-SA 4.0
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attribution
Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 from Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (https://copticscriptorium.org), corpus AP, document ap.072.n245.discipleship, version 4.5.0 (2023-09-01), annotations by Lydia Bremer-McCollum, Caroline T. Schroeder; source edition None. Licensed CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Layers L1/L2 are modified: re-spelled (Cairene) / transliterated (Kemetic) by the Kemetic project, Yousef Hanna 2026.
annotation
segmentation checked · tagging checked · parsing automatic (SCRIPTORIUM meta.json; document version 4.5.0, 2023-09-01)
generated by
tools/sahidic_to_cairene.py (route D, C3a 2026-09-24; tier a, ROUTE-2 2026-09-26) then tools/cairene.py from_witness dialect=bohairic on the intermediate (L1 = Cairene(N_B(D(N_S(L0)))), RI-038; word division church); Sahidic N stage counts: editorial_kept=6 th_resolved=2 tokens=65
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Monastic/Apophthegmata Patrum/ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium.L1.txt

L2 Kemetic

title
Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 — Kemetic
dialect
bohairic
source
generated from ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium.L1.txt
licence
CC BY-SA 4.0
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Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 from Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (https://copticscriptorium.org), corpus AP, document ap.072.n245.discipleship, version 4.5.0 (2023-09-01), annotations by Lydia Bremer-McCollum, Caroline T. Schroeder; source edition None. Licensed CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Layers L1/L2 are modified: re-spelled (Cairene) / transliterated (Kemetic) by the Kemetic project, Yousef Hanna 2026.
annotation
segmentation checked · tagging checked · parsing automatic (SCRIPTORIUM meta.json; document version 4.5.0, 2023-09-01)
generated by
tools/coptic_to_kemetic.py convert() on the L1 text (letter rules of DECISIONS.md 2026-09-08)
file
Monastic/Apophthegmata Patrum/ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium.L2.txt

English

what it is
DRAFT English. Not a published translation: `existing` rows quote an aligned translation named in `basis`; `llm` rows are a language-model best guess from the dictionary gloss and context (Yousef asked for them, 2026-09-27; to be corrected later); check the source text before relying on any of it.
lines
9 quoted · 0 quoted with the alignment not cross-checked · 0 model drafts (marked “draft”)
quoted from
Lydia Bremer-McCollum — aligned in Coptic SCRIPTORIUM AP, ap.072.n245.discipleship (9 lines)

Cite as:

Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072. Coptic SCRIPTORIUM corpus "AP", document ap.072.n245.discipleship. Layers as published by the Kemetic project (Yousef Hanna), 2026: Coptic · Cairene · Kemetic, /doc/monastic/apophthegmata-patrum/ap.072.n245.discipleship.sahidic.scriptorium/. Apophthegmata Patrum Sahidic 072 from Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (https://copticscriptorium.org), corpus AP, document ap.072.n245.discipleship, version 4.5.0 (2023-09-01), annotations by Lydia Bremer-McCollum, Caroline T. Schroeder; source edition None. Licensed CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Layers L1/L2 are modified: re-spelled (Cairene) / transliterated (Kemetic) by the Kemetic project, Yousef Hanna 2026.

What the layers are

L0 witness
The text as its witness or edition has it, original spelling; its dialect is a description and is never standardized.
L0.5 transliteration
For Egyptian texts: the transliteration with the editors' marks turned into the symbols ° * < > _ ^ (ruled 2026-09-10). For papyri: the edition's Leiden marks as the same symbols, and the editors' readings beside the scribe's as ‹scribe→editors› (ruled PAP-3).
L1 Cairene
Standardized Greco-Bohairic spelling and grammar, generated by code from the layer above under the rulings of the project.
L2 Kemetic
The Kemetic alphabet, generated by code from L1.
English
Quoted translations where they exist, credited; otherwise model drafts, marked as drafts.